PES Review: Psychiatrist Also Says,"Get A Specialist Memo?!"

last SG · 2010-08-09T11:07:16+00:00

OK, I phrased that wrongly. Let's say I'm an NSF now. I went to MMI but the crackpot doctor felt my case was not serious enough to warrant downpes.Therefore,...

Dazhell SG

Like some illnesses, that although can happen in army, are very unlikely to reoccur in real life. I can't say too much for fear of being TRACED but it's kind of an army-specific disorder. So you could opt not to declare it?

kengkia SG

i see...u wanna keng right...but the thing is do u have any mental illness to start with?

trolol SG

To ts, best thing is, if you want to keng, get outside doctor, get memo/letter, go mmi downgrade.

When you ORD, go back the outside doctor, get another letter to be discharged (cleared of your condition).

Of course, this depends on your condition, if it's an incurable one, don't do it.

I think liddat government job can't get, cos they can access your army records/medical records etc.

But private job i think they dun care de la, as long you dun have NS liability and can work can liao.

Lokey SG

Case 1: Insurance company X reject the person A as he has depression in the army.

Case 2: University X reject the person B as he has depression, unfit for study.

Case 3: I see a man shouting to himself (a imagined person?) at MRT station, on fri evening. Obviously he does not know he is talking to himself. And he is not acting. As he do not know what he is doing that himself.

NS is the most slacking period I have in my life. I have physically gained 5 to 10 kg. It is not stressful compared to JC life, Uni life. And it is not as stressful now in working life. So if you cannot handle stress in NS. It really reflect that you are NO GOOD.

If you really have a problem, your surrounding people will notice, you dont have to declare, they will drag you to the medical centre.

~PEPPER~ SG

All psychiatric cases are reviewed by MMI medical specialist at MMI or saf ward.

Some who sent to SAF ward for observation are downgraded there. They signed the medical downgrade form at SAF ward.

Then there's a medical board held at MMI to decide the PES status.

PES F may affect jobs and prospect. PES C to E mostly wont affect jobs.

But some PES E ppl cannot work outside one like mild autism/asperger syndrome.

Some PES E also cant study like mild autism and asperger syndrome.

My relative asperger syndrome PES E, he after NS never work or study. Familly will support him until they die.

One Harmonius Blend SG

U meant multiple personality disorder? I think should be downgradable or even PES F.

Split personality disorder should not be serious to get a PES F straight.

At most PES E only.

-StarDust- SG

Split personality disorder should not be serious to get a PES F straight.

At most PES E only.

Severe multiple personality disorder who knows maybe PES F. Wad kind of mental illnesses u have, U pes F right?

U got find job to do?

Dazhell SG

I mean let's say the doctor felt that your illness wasn't serious enough, but you went to get a second outside opinion. Then come back, will the mmi psycho doctor still say ' I think your illness not serious enough to be downgraded' despite the memo from the other outside doctor?

Dazhell SG

Believe me what someone said about going back after NS to see a doctor to certify that you are no longer suffering from the illness is useful information.

But I wonder whether the mental record is already there (i.e. can't be erased).

-StarDust- SG

MMI specialist can dun accept wad is written by ur outside doc.

The mental illness record still kept in NS records.

So if u go government job might affect ur chances. Cos government agency linked together.

Wad's ur medical condition? insomia? Insomia in my opinion hard to down pes.

If severe insomia maybe can.

Dazhell SG

Well the funny thing is my camp mo diagnosed me with anxiety adjustment disorder (insomnia is just one of the symptoms) but the mmi doc didnt seem to think it was serious enough to down pes.

tarutaru SG

Well the funny thing is my camp mo diagnosed me with anxiety adjustment disorder (insomnia is just one of the symptoms) but the mmi doc didnt seem to think it was serious enough to down pes.

So what's your plan now?

Dazhell SG

I will try and get a second medical opinion, which is why I started this thread, for helpful advice, which has been present in certain amounts. One option is to get referred by the camp MO again although that would be more problematic and slower, the other is to go hospital doctor

~PEPPER~ SG

Well the funny thing is my camp mo diagnosed me with anxiety adjustment disorder (insomnia is just one of the symptoms) but the mmi doc didnt seem to think it was serious enough to down pes.

Adjustment disorder is usually recoverable cant down pes one. Even if downpes also temp status.

If u gt depression or other anxiety disorder then can down pes ( either temp or perm) depending on situation backed with specialsit memos.

trolol SG

High chance you can't down pes. Best situtation is where they give you stay out or revocate.

One Harmonius Blend SG

Severe multiple personality disorder who knows maybe PES F. Wad kind of mental illnesses u have, U pes F right?

U got find job to do?

Schizo at most only PES E, not any further.

I'd prefer to keep that private.

-StarDust- SG

Schizo at most only PES E, not any further.

I'd prefer to keep that private.

Multiple personality disorder and schizo different. I seen ppl with schizo get PES F.

My frenz family gt one PES F due to mental illness schizioprenia.

Some psychotic disorder PES F also.

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